Jessie Li: Roam/CN and Collective Intelligence

🎙RoamFM Aug 23, 2020

In this episode, we talk with Jessie Li, an independent consultant at Singapore Management University’s Innovation and Entrepreneurship Center, and Founder of Fat Garage, an interesting website covering Chinese entrepreneurs in niche markets, such as asteroid mining, synthetic biology, and more.w

She founded the roam/cn Community, a collective of Roam users from all walks of life in Mandarin, filled with videos, articles, and other resources to learn together, and develop use cases for Roam Research.

We talked about:

  • How she discovered Roam through Product Hunt, and getting jealous of her friend’s Roam graph
  • Supporting Chinese Roam users in roam/cn and growing up to 200+ members
  • The future of Roam in media, as a university and a new Twitter


Thank you to Matt Brockwell for the awesome review!

Check out the full transcript here


  • 3:45 Jessie’s background, developing China’s entrepreneurship ecosystem
  • 8:25 The meaning of ‘Fat Garage’
  • 11:31 Discovering the tool through Product Hunt
  • 13:32 “I was jealous of his graph”
  • 16:15 Roam in beta, and the a-ha moments
  • 19:35 The Business Model Canvas
  • 24:04 Jessie Li’s templates and routines
  • 27:18 Starting roam/cn and gathering the Chinese Roam community
  • 29:48 Interpreting Conor’s interview on 20minutesvc
  • 33:36 WeChat group with 230+ members
  • 38:20 Overlap between Roam China’s members and other WeChat groups
  • 41:33 Seeing roam/cn in 5 years, and the future of Roam
  • 42:36 Roam will be a better university
  • 44:58 Roam can be a better media
  • 48:59 Roam can be a better Twitter
  • 59:41 Running roam/cn in a chaotic way
  • 54:06 Collective intelligence and the roam/cn public Roam graph
  • 57:52 [[How would you describe Roam to someone who hasn’t started using it?]]
  • 1:03:53 [[What does Roam mean to you?]]



Norman Chella is the Podcast Rainmaker, Polymath in Progress and a very strange writer. His creative pen name is N.T. Cloever. You can find his words right here.

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